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All that is needed is a DCU, we are in the same situation, though if Foxit actually respond to emails, cases or calls to sell us the source, we will of course be kind and make the DCU available for 11 based on the current version. Hopefully this would allow anyone that has a licenced version us it. 

If anyone is able to share a DCU before us I would be greatful. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ingo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Dec 21 at 9:39AM
Hi Ulrich,

so we need somebody with a source license AND a Delphi 11 Installation AND time to do it ;-)
Don't think there's somebody doing it between Christmas and New Years Eve. Perhaps in January it's better...

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Hello Ingo,
thank you very much for the information.

I had planned to switch some projects from Delphi 10.4.2 to Delphi 11 between Christmas and New Year. Is there any way to get an installation package of "quick pdf library" for Delphi 11 without violating license terms?

As already mentioned, we use version 18.11 .

Kind regards
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ingo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Dec 21 at 10:28PM
We also have users with a source license - due to this a compile job for the owners of a compiled version shouldn't be a problem ;-)
I've described what we can do.
In the moment this website suddenly dissapears i'll start a new forum/community and let you know where to find and there we'll maintain the library by ourselves for ourselves.

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In my opinion, a membership only makes sense if you are in possession of the source code. We have a license of the version (without source code). We have written to Foxit several times to buy the source code. But without any answer.
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Did you have any joy from Foxit, it would appear every department has been closed between 05:00 and 16:00 UTC today. As the HQ is California we will keep trying until UTC 20:00
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ingo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Dec 21 at 6:32PM
I like this visual style here a lot.
Stackoverflow i don't like at all.
If we wanna move we shouldn't wait too long - so we still have the chance to announce the new forum-link here.
There are many ready-made free (but with ads) forum- or community-options online.
Any suggestions?
If we have enough suggestions we can initiate a voting and then we can build the new community.
We shouldn't forget gathering the members being busy here the last year to let them now about how it's going on in the future.
Are there any other opinions on this matter?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mLipok Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Dec 21 at 12:19PM
I remember that when chilkat gave up his own forum, he switched to stack sites.

Maybe we create new tag in 

https://stackoverflow.com/
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Here you can find description how to test my examples:
http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2932&PID=12600&title=drawcapturedpagematrix-matrix-howto#12600
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rweetch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Dec 21 at 10:35AM
should we look at moving the group to somewhere else - like Delphi Praxis/Third Party?

I think those of us with source code could publish updates that others could copy when it becomes necessary
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ingo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Dec 21 at 8:05PM
Hi Martin,

seems that even using the wayback machine there isn't any forgotten link for buying the library now.
The other things were things from the past - i don't wanna do it again... it's a lot of work and we've stopped in 2009 ;-)
But further things shouldn't be discussed here (there's no problem to find me on the web ;-)

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Hi Ingo,

thanks for this historical review and background infos.

I do not believe that anyone without millions of $ could get the rights back from Foxit as they have their own agenda with the takeover of Debenu and staff. E.g. exterminate competitors...

But I am very much interested in „Each developer with a proof of purchase for the original compiled or the source version got the new version from us.“

How could this be handled in the future?

Is there still a group who is able and willing to maintain the library?

For the moment I am fine with 18.11
But in some years it could be important that bugs and new standards are addressed with some corrections.

I tried to get the source version now as immediate action.
But I do not find a link for download or purchase anymore.

Regards
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ingo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Dec 21 at 8:01PM
This situation we had already up to 2007.
Kevin Newman was the only developer and publisher of QuickPDF.
His limited resources as a one-man-company (i think so) leads into a lack of support. In the end he completely stopped further developement and stopped answering questions.
We were a small group of developers using QuickPDF in our own projects.
From 2007 on we've tried to get in contact in many ways with Kevin to buy the library rights from him but he never answered.
From 2006 up to 2009 we've adapted more and more new functionalities into this library.
Each developer with a proof of purchase for the original compiled or the source version got the new version from us.
On this website www.quickpdf.org we offered support by our own (from users to users).
In the end of 2008 we've got messages from Karl de Abrew (R.I.P) and Rowan Hanna - well known pdf-pioneers. They've established a new company (Debenu) and bought the complete rights of the library from Kevin (we all were wondering how they managed it cause we hadn't success in doing the same for a long time).
Our small group got a lifetime source license from Debenu - that was all.
Debenu hired a developer team from Czechoslovakia, take over our further developement and began publishing the library.
Years ago most of the initial Debenu-team like Karl, his wife and Rowan changed with QuickPDF under the roof of the Foxit company... This was the reason slow down for support and further developement and leads to the actual situation.
It is a shame about this extensive yet slim library - the stroke of fate a second time now :(
A month ago i've made a complete copy of this website with all pdf-resources and reference guide and so on. So we'll look forward to December, 2022...
I'm very dissapointed but... Maybe some things can be repeated several times... ;-)
 


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There are a few of problems with this.

1. Foxit SDK does not have all the features of QuickPDF, or at least that were my conclusions a few years ago when I tried to compare them.

2. It would take me at least 2 months of intensive work to rewrite all the functionalities implemented with QuickPDF to Foxit SDK.

3. Price is not the only problem, the bigger is the lack of royalty free options. You always have to use Request QUOTE, i.e. you will be counted for each end customer.
Here you can find description how to test my examples:
http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2932&PID=12600&title=drawcapturedpagematrix-matrix-howto#12600
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sopracenery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Dec 21 at 8:52PM
 Foxit PDF SDK

... is something totally different and it is licenced by a anual rental fee of $3000 per year!
So here with quickpdflibrary you pay $500 once for lifetime and there you pay only the half -
but unfortunately every month!

Foxit PDF SDK Pricing Overview

Licensing PDF SDK

$3,000.00

On Premise
per platform/per year


Let‘s hope and pray that someone takes over the sources and continues the library...


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I've just received an email from Foxit saying that the Quick PDF Library is being discontinued. See Quick PDF End-of-Life announcement

I can't say that I'm totally surprised, but I am of course very disappointed.

They say that they have alternative products, e.g., "Foxit PDF SDK", that can be used but give no prices and no license terms (e.g., whether they are royalty free or not). Does anyone know about the prices and terms?
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