Debenu Quick PDF Library - PDF SDK Community Forum : Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 10:44:48 +0000 Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:47:30 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.01 360 www.quickpdf.org/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=835 <![CDATA[Debenu Quick PDF Library - PDF SDK Community Forum]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/forum_images/QPDF_Forum_Title.png http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/ <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Hello!Still few days and i hope...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4089.html#4089 Author: Ingo
Subject: 835
Posted: 11 Jan 08 at 5:47PM

Hello!

Still few days and i hope we can upload new sources version 6.00 (with modifications from Harald and Percy) for testing for all source-license-members.
Stay tuned!

Best regards and a happy weekend,
Ingo


Edited by Ingo - 11 Jan 08 at 5:49PM]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:47:30 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4089.html#4089 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Hello everybody,although the most...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4020.html#4020 Author: HarryS
Subject: 835
Posted: 20 Dec 07 at 12:45PM

Hello everybody,

although the most sco's seem to be located in germany, I'll try it in English too : Welcome to the "IT mummy club"!

Some facts : I'm 45 years old, the last 15 years I spent mainly with Delphi and Oracle, writing database applications for the industry.

We use the library more for viewing than for manipulating documents, but we do (in some special way => catalog entries).

Bringing the source together :

I hope everybody have testcases/documented for their changes they made. So if we start e.g. based on my code, we should be able to add changes step by step and sco by sco. If we complete one round of fixes, we should have a beta-roll-out and very sco must test the library if it is still working for his needs. Could be lot of work, but no other way will bring us forward.

I think the main reason for no offer till now is, that everybody uses the library different. If somebody claims 'Oh my form fields do not work, sometimes!',  you don't have a chance to find the  problem in a defined time. So paying can be very expensive, if e.g. I'll first have to write  an test-application to reproduce the problem.

@grahl : Maybe we should discuss the problem by phone ...

Ask Ingo for contact ...

And now before I go offline for this year :

Merry Christmas and a happy new year ...

]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:45:31 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4020.html#4020 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Hi HarryS, hi source owners,we...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4018.html#4018 Author: grahl
Subject: 835
Posted: 20 Dec 07 at 11:55AM

Hi HarryS, hi source owners,

we (me and Ulrich - ukobsa) are in a similar situation. We use the library primarily for PDF manipulation and creation, not for rendering. Ulrich has fixed a couple of bugs, added some performance improvement and some features here and there in our internal QuickPDF source.

We'd be happy to share our changes in some way, but I'm not sure how such a way could look like. For small fixes and changes, an easy way would be to just document the source changes, and it would be up to every single source owner to implement them in his own code, or not. I think this worked for some small changes in the beginning of this forum. But I'm not sure if this would also work for more complex changes and with everyone's source base becoming more and more different. Having an 'official', shared source would be nice, but how realistic is it to get there and to keep that? In the past, in this forum, it didn't work. Changes have to be approved and consesus has to be built on what to add in which way. For us, an 'official', shared, but not really supported source couldn't be more than a template to copy changes from. Might work well for some time, but then...?

I'd also be happy to find someone offering to fix or extend QuickPDF in *my* code, and getting paid for it. I would also share such fixes/extensions with others who also contribute in a similar way. Unfortunately, this is blank theory, because nobody offered such service yet.

-Oliver
]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:55:29 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4018.html#4018 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Hi Percy!This hits me down ......]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4015.html#4015 Author: Ingo
Subject: 835
Posted: 20 Dec 07 at 2:04AM

Hi Percy!

This hits me down ... I'm 47 :-))

To all users without knowledge of the german language:
Percy has written about his way to QuickPDF.
He is responsible for a main product of his company and this product is mainly based on QP.
Until today he has got few more knowledges about the hard to understand adobe specifications and he has made several modifications in his version 5.14 of QP.
Little time ago he wants to change to the last open version of Marian and he can't. Marian has changed a lot... some sequences, too... and so Percy had to go back to his version 5.14.
Percy tells us that a compiled version (like 5.22) can't be a solution for him as a professional developer.
Percy announced that he wants to post all his modifications in the near future here in our forum. QP is still his (mine, too) favourite library and he wants to keep it alive.

Best regards,
Ingo



Edited by Ingo - 20 Dec 07 at 2:04AM]]> Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:04:20 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4015.html#4015 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : only some thoughts because of...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4014.html#4014 Author: pschott
Subject: 835
Posted: 19 Dec 07 at 7:56PM

only some thoughts because of this only in my first language German.
Ein paar gedanken von mir (just thougth so there in my main language German)
Ich habe mich für diese Libary entschieden da sie für wenig Geld einen Leistungsumfang bietet
die andere nicht haben (abgesehen von Adobe die aber damals üeber 20.000€ gekostet hätte).
Für mich (und meine Firma für dich ich arbeite und das Produkt für das ich verantwortlich zeichne
, ein wahres schnäpchen)
Die sache fing gut an. (kein probleme mit irgendwelchen PDF Dateien)
Sämtliche PDF Dateien konnte mein Programm (Sarke DMS und ein paar OEM's von Firmen in Süd- und Norddeutschland gut verarbeiten (Kassel ist nun mal die Mitte;-)).
Nach und nach kam hier und da ein PDF File der nicht funktioniert hatte (Textextraction und Rendering to Image), da ich
vorher schonmal die Spezifikationen von Adobe "durchgeackert hatte" dämmert es mir das diese Lib nicht alles abdeckte.
Kein Problem dachte ich habe ja(meine Firma) 500€ bezahlt die(ISED) machen das schon!:-(
Mitlerweile beschäftige ich mit dem Adobe Spezifaktionen mehr als mir lieb ist.
Wobei mein Ziel ist gegen Docuware,Easy,Saperium und ELo anzustinken (and we win).
(Das ist der Grund warum ich recht zurückhaltend in diesem Forum bin, nun lass ich die Hosen runter).
Hier geht es um eine Lib die für professionelle Entwickler, unabhängig von Adobe, nach meiner Meinung am Leben erhalten
werden muss!
Ingo hat die ein oder andere Änderung von mir erhalten (ich weiss nicht viel, aber besser als gar nichts (Spezifakton von Adobe sind der Horror)).
Irgendwan fing Marian an Fehler in der Lib zu beheben von den ich nicht betroffen war (nice for me), dann wollte ich auf 5.21 (ich hatte meine Änderungen von 5.14 implementiert) updaten.
Entschuldige Marian aber ich musste wieder auf 5.14 mit meinen kleinen Änderungen zurück (RenderToImage was no way by you (MainFeature on QuickPdfLib)).
Diese Fehler sollten angeblch in 5.22 nicht mehr vorhanden sein, allerdings benötige ich die SOurcen der Lib da ich mit meiinem Kopf
dafür gerade stehe das ich auch in Zukunft fehler beheben kann und ich sage dir hier ganz deutlich so wie du in diesem Forum angefangen hast warts du Willkomen, mitlerweile
bin ich der Meinung mach deinen eigenen Teil und begebe ich die Gefahr der Regressforderungen von dem Souerceeigentümer (Ich bin es nicht
ich darf lediglich die Sourcen ändern und mit anderen austauschen, aber kein Geld für meine Änderungen verlangen).
Sämtliche Änderungn die ich an der Lib vornehme werde ich demnächst in diesem Forum posten (passierend auf der demnächst erscheinenden Version,
nach meiner Meinung 6.0SCO (klare abgrenzung zwischen Licensed Source Code and other)), auch wenn ich der Meinung bin, dass wir
unbedingt subversion (my favorite tool) benötigen um die Lib für professionelle Entiwckler am Leben zu erhalten und/oder (hoffentlich) featuring voranzutreiben.

Ein Gedanke von einem profesionellen Entwickler
(Ich verdiene mein Geld mit meinen Ideen und bin 38 Jahre alt (also in der It-Brance kurz vor der Rente)).

]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:56:55 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4014.html#4014 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Krom, There area couple of...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4010.html#4010 Author: swb1
Subject: 835
Posted: 19 Dec 07 at 10:54AM

Krom,

 

There are a couple of errors/misconceptions in your post.

 

1. QuickPDF cannot be open-source. Copyright laws prevent that. People who already own rights to the source code have the right to make changes.

 

2. There is nobody here who clams to own the current source. There may be people here who do not wish to just give-away their significant efforts in updating or improving the current code set.

]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:54:22 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4010.html#4010 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : I think that QuickPDF must be...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4009.html#4009 Author: krom
Subject: 835
Posted: 19 Dec 07 at 10:34AM

I think that QuickPDF must be OPEN-SOURCE LIBRARY!!!

So, we'll get bug fixes and updates from all the world.
IMHO.
I cannot pay money to user that decide that he itself the owner of the existing source code.
 
]]> Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:34:38 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4009.html#4009 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Hi!We&#039;ll start again with...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4006.html#4006 Author: Ingo
Subject: 835
Posted: 18 Dec 07 at 4:37PM

Hi!
We'll start again with "our" last open version 5.21 here again. Free for all source users. It will be a success if the source users are willing to share their improvements with others... It could be so easy ;-)
The other things ( a compiled version from time to time and so on) you can keep in our hands (Michel and mine).
Best regards,
Ingo
]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:37:50 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4006.html#4006 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Haralds comments reflect my opinion...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4005.html#4005 Author: swb1
Subject: 835
Posted: 18 Dec 07 at 12:05PM

Haralds comments reflect my opinion so well that I am hard pressed to think f anything to add.

I will add that what Harald said "...Marian started the support for the library user" is true. Moreover, no one else here can assist with that support as long as Marian keeps the source closed. That library is his and anybody else who wants to use it, but I cannot.

 

I don't wish to sound ungrateful for Marian efforts, in fact quite the opposite. Sincere thanks for all Marian has done. I believe it's time for the SCOs in the forum to move forward.

 



Edited by swb1 - 18 Dec 07 at 3:14PM]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:05:46 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4005.html#4005 <![CDATA[Investment-Protection (QuickPdf source) : Hi Harald!All users with a password...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4003.html#4003 Author: Ingo
Subject: 835
Posted: 18 Dec 07 at 10:42AM

Hi Harald!

All users with a password for the source-section... ;-)
If i think it over perhaps 50 users here have a source license.
From this group perhaps 15... up to 20 are reading/posting here in a regularly way. I've got two modified units from Percy (uPDFFontRasterizer and uPDFExtractor). I'll compare them with my last versions and then i'll send all units to you for your improvements and then we should upload it in the source section for all source owners. Perhaps then there are other users willing to share their improvements, too.

Best regards,
Ingo



Edited by Ingo - 18 Dec 07 at 10:45AM]]> Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:42:52 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/investmentprotection-quickpdf-source_topic835_post4003.html#4003