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   <title><![CDATA[Adding BBox with Debenu : Thanks, Ingo. Bates Numbering...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3159">Ken_SF</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3758<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 Nov 19 at 1:49PM<br /><br />Thanks, Ingo. Bates Numbering is a method of serializing (adding a number with or without a prefix or suffix) to every page in a pdf.<div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.adobe.com/c&#111;ntent/dam/acom/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/bates_numbering.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/bates_numbering.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>It is used by lawyers to create an official record of every document (converted to PDF) in a court case.</div><div><br></div><div>If there are two pdfs in the official record and the first pdf has 3 pages and the 2nd has 4 pages the bates numbering might start with AR 0001 and and with AR 0003, then the 2nd pdf would begin with AR 0004 and end with AR 0007.&nbsp; &nbsp;Any citations from the official record will include a reference to the bates number to make it easy for the Judge, the opposing side and any future, interested parties, to find citations.</div><div><br></div><div>The name comes from a mechanical stamp that used to be used to stamp pages filed with the court. The Bates Stamp&nbsp; company made a stamp.</div><div><br></div><div>This Wiki article explains the history.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bates_numbering" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bates_numbering</a></div><div><br></div><div>My research tells me that simply writing text on a page using Drawtext function is not a perfect way to Bates Stamp a pdf. Why? Because the text on the pdf is changed.&nbsp; &nbsp;The Adobe Standard (which I am only just learning) says the best way to designate extra data on a pdf (background data) is to use what Adobe calls an 'artifact'.&nbsp; I have seen artifacts used for Bates Stamping by third party software and that is what I'd like to be able to do myself programmatically.</div><div><br></div><div>Foxit (and Debenu)'s Aerialist product Bates Stamps PDFs and there are many free and inexpensive programs that do this. I am licensed to use two different programs that Bates Stamp pdfs, but neither is perfect and I'd like full control over the process.</div><div><br></div><div>I also believe the Bates Stamping process has other business value for marking documents at the end of a fiscal year.</div><div><br></div><div>If Debenu SDK needs to be enhanced if it doesn't support objects.&nbsp; Why buy (or upgrade) if Debenu only gets you 1/2 way there?</div><div><br></div><div>To do this without Debenu's SDK, I need to have a better understanding of Adobe's PDF Standard.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this helps.</div><div><br></div><div>Ken</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Adding BBox with Debenu : using the google translation for...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=111">Ingo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3758<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 Nov 19 at 1:25PM<br /><br />using the google translation for bates or bates numbering still don't give me explanations about what is it ;-)<br>I'm only modifying page numbering by first painting with white color at the bottom and then drawing the new numbers over it.<br>QuickPDF doesn't offer functionality regarding direct access to pdf-documents via using objects.<br><br>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Adding BBox with Debenu : Hi,I am trying to add Bates Numbering...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3159">Ken_SF</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 3758<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 Nov 19 at 3:18PM<br /><br />Hi,<div><br></div><div>I am trying to add Bates Numbering to pre-existing PDFs using an 'accepted' technique.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I was somewhat successful using the DrawText function, however, this doesn't give the same result as bates numbering if added using a few commercial apps that I can use.&nbsp; Extracting pagetext with debenu sdk omits the bates number if added with a commercial app. Extracting pagetext retrieves the bates number if DrawText is used.&nbsp; &nbsp;Also, renumbering with drawtext does not erase bates numbering added with a commercial app, yet commercial apps appear to erase each other's bates numbers when run sequentially.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW: Bates Numbering means to add a sequential number, with our without prefix/suffix, to each page in a pdf.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I used an editor to view bates stamped pdfs from two different commercial vendors and (although I am not an expert reading the internals of a pdf), I believe this is the bates stamp created for one page on one pdf.</div><div><br></div><div>Is there away to add this to a pdf with debenu sdk?&nbsp; It appears the 'official' way to add a bates stamp is to add an /artifact to the pdf and then use /batesn.&nbsp; This is what I suspect I need to add (bate's result is AR 00003828):</div><div><br></div><div><table width="99%"><tr><td><pre class="BBcode"></div><div><div>39 0 obj</div><div>&lt;&lt;/BBox&#091;0.0 -20.0 122.324 2.00012&#093;/LastModified(D:20180623135541-07'00')/Length 156/Matrix&#091;1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.0&#093;/OC 40 0 R/PieceInfo&lt;&lt;/ADBE_CompoundType&lt;&lt;/DocSettings 41 0 R/LastModified(D:20180623135541-07'00')/Private/BatesN&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;/Resources 42 0 R/Subtype/Form&gt;&gt;stream</div><div>0 g 0 G 0 i 0 J &#091;&#093;0 d 0 j 1 w 10 M 0 Tc 0 Tw 100 Tz 0 TL 0 Tr 0 Ts</div><div>BT</div><div>/Arial 20 Tf</div><div>0.25 0.330002 1 rg</div><div>0.001 -15.791 Td</div><div>(AR ) Tj</div><div>33.34 0 Td</div><div>(00003828) Tj</div><div>ET</div><div><br></div><div>endstream</div><div>endobj</div></div><div></pre></td></tr></table></div><div><br></div><div>I don't care about the last modified data, but found the bbox (bounding box), PieceInfo, BatesN items were used in two different commercial bates numbering programs.</div><div><br></div><div>I can add this myself (without debenu's sdk) if I understood a bit more about how to add an object with stream to a pdf using pdf syntax.</div><div><br></div><div>Can anyone help with this?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance.</div><div><br></div><div>Ken</div>]]>
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