Debenu Quick PDF Library - PDF SDK Community Forum : AddSubsettedFont Problems http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 28 Jun 2026 20:18:46 +0000 Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:53:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 11.01 360 www.quickpdf.org/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=2168 <![CDATA[Debenu Quick PDF Library - PDF SDK Community Forum]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/forum_images/QPDF_Forum_Title.png http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/ <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : On closer look, at least with...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9226.html#9226 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 24 Feb 12 at 12:53PM

On closer look, at least with Option 4, it doesn't appear that fonts in the NoEmbedFontList are being embedded (so that is good!)

So the only question that remains for me is if I need to add all variants of the NoEmbedFontList (Bold, Italic, etc....) to the NoEmbedFontList if I don't want them to be embedded.




Edited by jpbro - 24 Feb 12 at 1:31PM]]> Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:53:41 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9226.html#9226 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : I originally had option 4 there,...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9225.html#9225 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 24 Feb 12 at 12:44PM

I originally had option 4 there, but I was having trouble with font embedding. I then changed it to 2 because I didn't see option 4 in the online documentation (see http://www.quickpdflibrary.com/help/quickpdf/LoadFromCanvasDC.php ) so I thought I had used it in error. I guess you must have told me to use it another time, and this time I will make sure to comment this code to avoid the problem again in the future. I've tried using option 4 again, and it appears to be working, so thank you.

What I can't explain though is why fonts seem to be embedded even if they are in the NoEmbedFontList? Is this a bug?

Also, assuming that the NoEmbedFontList is working, do I need to put entries for Bold, Italic, etc... I notice the PDF can have entries such as "Arial,Bold" and "Arial,Italic", etc... so to prevent embedding of Arial entirely, do I need to do something like:

QP.NoEmbedFontListAdd "Arial"
QP.NoEmbedFontListAdd "Arial,Bold"
QP.NoEmbedFontListAdd "Arial,Italic"
etc...

or is QP.NoEmbedFontListAdd "Arial" enough to prevent any style of Arial from being embedded?

Thanks for your help Andrew.
]]> Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:44:58 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9225.html#9225 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : Have you tried option 4 with the...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9222.html#9222 Author: AndrewC
Subject: 2168
Posted: 24 Feb 12 at 9:09AM

Have you tried option 4 with the Qpdf.NewPageFromCanvasDC 96, 4  function.

3 = Process the drawing commands as vector graphics, fonts not in the no embed
font list are embedded and compressed
4 = Same as 3 but fonts already added during previous calls to this function or the
LoadFromCanvasDC function are reused



]]> Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:09:25 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9222.html#9222 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : I&#039;ve created a small sample...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9217.html#9217 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 23 Feb 12 at 3:21PM

I've created a small sample VB6 project that uses the features using to demonstrate the problem concisely.

It performs the following operations:
1) Creates a 100 page document
2) Each page has only the text "abcdef 0123" on it
3) Each page alternates between a font in the NoEmbedFontList ("Tahoma") and a font that we want embedded that might not be on a target system ("Monaco", but you can change this to a font you have).

This creates an almost 20MB PDF file, but ideally it would only embed the Monaco font once instead of 50 times. Is this possible to achieve with QuickPDF?

Link:
http://www.statslog.net/pdffontembed.zip
]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:21:54 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9217.html#9217 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : Regarding Helvetica - since it...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9216.html#9216 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 23 Feb 12 at 2:38PM

Regarding Helvetica - since it is one of the PDF standard fonts, should this mean that it should never be embedded by QuickPDF?]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:38:35 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9216.html#9216 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : The PDF is generated exclusively...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9215.html#9215 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 23 Feb 12 at 1:56PM

The PDF is generated exclusively using QuickPDF from a proprietary template format. Let me give you some background first:

Our template/layout file format is an Sqlite database that allows users to position textboxes (RTF), data fields, lines, images, etc... anywhere on a page. There can be dozens of these objects per page. The layout, font and character possibilities are essentially endless.

We then parse this template database, merge in data from other databases and send drawing commands to QuickPDF to generate the fully rendered PDF.

In the case of RTF TextBoxes, I'm using GetCanvasDC on the first call to a RTF drawing operation, then draw the RTF to that DC. Subsequent calls to RTF drawing use the same DC unless a non-RTF drawing operation is encountered.

When an operation such as drawing an image or a line is encountered, I call LoadFromCanvasDC, then merge document to the main document, capture the page and draw it over the active page in the main document. I then process the line or image drawing operation using the QuickPDF DrawLine, DrawImage or DrawBox methods as appropriate on the active page in the main document.

These operations continue until all of the objects have been drawn on the page and the document is complete.

My guess at the 10 pages is that there are 9 times that I'm performing the LoadCanvasDC > > MergeDocument > CapturePage process (which automatically deletes the capture page, thus making it appear as if there were more pages originally).

As to where the Helvetica font came from, I have no idea - I don't even have that font on my system and I have put Helvetica in my NoEmbedFontList, so I don't know why it should have been included? Tahoma is also on my NoEmbedFontList, so it shouldn't be included either should it?

When I use LoadFromCanvasDC with an option of 2, does QuickPdf embed all of the fonts used in the DC even if they've been previously embedded? That is - is there no way for QuickPDF to notice that a font has already been embedded before it embeds it again?

Also, shouldn't LoadFromCanvasDC be honouring the NoEmbedFontList when used with an option of 2?

Lastly, does it make more sense to move this conversation to a support ticket?

Thanks a lot for your help Andrew.




]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:56:15 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9215.html#9215 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : The PDF looks like it originally...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9213.html#9213 Author: AndrewC
Subject: 2168
Posted: 23 Feb 12 at 8:04AM

The PDF looks like it originally have 10 pages but these have been deleted.  Also there are multiple copies of embedded Type1 fonts such as Tahoma and Helvetica but they don't seem to be referenced anywhere.

If you load the PDF file in Notepad or some other text editor you can scroll through and see the fonts in the PDF file.




Andrew.
]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:04:00 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9213.html#9213 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : One problem: the resultant PDF...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9211.html#9211 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 22 Feb 12 at 8:38PM

One problem: the resultant PDF files are now quite large (4ish MB instead of 200ish KB).

Maybe QPDF is embedding fonts even if they are in the NoEmbedFontList? Or maybe it is embedding the same font multiple time for each call that I've made to EM_FORMATRANGE on the CanvasDC?

I don't know enough about the internals of PDF files to know, but I've attached a sample PDF if anyone has the time to inspect it and tell me why it is so large. I appreciate the help.

http://www.statslog.net/fontembed.pdf


]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:38:35 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9211.html#9211 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : Looks like the mistake was mine...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9210.html#9210 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 22 Feb 12 at 7:59PM

Looks like the mistake was mine - I was mysteriously using an option of 4 (which doesn't exist) in LoadFromCanvasDC instead of 2...Sorry if I've wasted your time!
]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:59:41 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9210.html#9210 <![CDATA[AddSubsettedFont Problems : I&#039;ve switched to AddTrueTypeSubsettedFont...]]> http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9201.html#9201 Author: jpbro
Subject: 2168
Posted: 22 Feb 12 at 2:41PM

I've switched to AddTrueTypeSubsettedFont as per Andrew's recommendations in another thread, but I'm getting the same output as above, so still no luck.]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:41:50 +0000 http://www.quickpdf.org/forum/addsubsettedfont-problems_topic2168_post9201.html#9201